Итак, в 1.8 ДПС воинов ждут значительные изменения:
http://forums.riftgame.com/rift-general ... p-pts.html

Все что ниже, понятно, лишь ранняя версия, но ход мыслей ясен. Наконец-то мы будем скалироваться от Attack Power. Все финишеры переделаны со 120% - 140% weapon damage на 100% weapon damage + AP контрибуция.

Возможно, начнут работать 51-е спеки. Тем не менее разрабы уже сказали что не хотят губить "RW" спек, а дать альтернативы. Подробности ниже, основные изменения в Champion, Riftblade и Paragon:

Happy Friday everyone, I wanted to drop by and let you all know that we have the first pass of AP changes in for the Warrior calling and you will be getting to play with them in the next PTS patch. The intention of these changes is to get the Warrior AP scaling to a solid baseline foundation so that we can make sure they are scaling properly and in a balanced way to other callings. One side effect of this is that we had to pull out a lot of band aids we were previously using to scale things in a more even fashion and have had to do a lot of rebalancing to get things in order after all of that.

What does all of this mean to you? Well, because of the extent of the changes we wanted all of you to get a chance to play with it and beat on it sooner rather than later. Please be aware that these numbers are only ballpark and nothing is final, there are changes still on the way. If you get upset, we encourage you to communicate that upset in a productive way so we can evaluate it and make some changes. If you find OP builds, let us know so we can look at them, and if you find underpowered builds let us know about those as well. You will notice that the damage of just about every ability has changed to some degree, some up and some down but in the end it should result in a more balanced playing field across the DPS souls in the Warrior. The two biggest areas you will notice changes are in Elemental damage and scaling, and Dual Wield versus Two Handers. I am also providing a list of patch notes so that you know what to expect.

Warrior Changes

Warrior
• All Warriors now get a Passive Buff called Building Fury that shows up in one of their souls that gives them increased Attack Power contribution to Finishers based on Attack Points used.
• Finishers no longer gain an increase to Weapon damage based on Attack Points used.
• All Damaging abilities have been re-balanced to work with using Attack Power in a more consistent manner.

Beastmaster
• Fixed a bug causing Slashing Strike to delay for a couple seconds.

Champion
• Bloodthirst now gains a 200% Attack Power contribution instead of a Weapon Damage Modification.
• Disruptive Strike now gains a 200% Attack Power contribution instead of a Weapon Damage Modification.
• Fixed a bug that caused Deadly Strikes to work with one handed weapons in certain circumstances.
• Reduced the effectiveness of the 4 gear benefit in Rasmolov’s Champion Crystal to 20% from 35%.
• Cornered Beast duration has been reduced to 2.5 seconds, hits every 0.5 seconds. Cooldown has been reduced to 30 seconds.
• Titan's Strike cooldown has been reduced to 30 seconds.
• Destroyer's Bearing has had its damage bonus increased to a maximum of 50% instead of 35% and now always generates an attack point.
• Disruptive Strike has had its cooldown reduced from 15 to 10 seconds.
• Weapon Specialization now grants 0.6% per Talent Point for each Soul Point spent in Champion.

Paladin
• Retaliation now gains a 200% Attack Power contribution instead of a Weapon Damage Modification.
• Disarming Counterblow now gains a 200% Attack Power contribution instead of a Weapon Damage Modification.
• Paladin's Reprisalnow gains a 200% Attack Power contribution instead of a Weapon Damage Modification.

Paragon
• Way of the Mountain now only enhances the damage of Finishers while Dual Wielding.
• Paired Strike now gains a 200% Attack Power contribution instead of a Weapon Damage Modification.
• Path of the Hurricane now gains a 200% Attack Power contribution instead of a Weapon Damage Modification.
• Path of the Raptor now gains a 200% Attack Power contribution instead of a Weapon Damage Modification.
• Death Touch now gains a 200% Attack Power contribution instead of a Weapon Damage Modification.
• Rising Waterfall now gains a 200% Attack Power contribution when Dual Wielding instead of a Weapon Damage Modification.
• Rising Waterfall now does higher damage when Dual Wielding.
• Flurry duration has been reduced to 2.5 seconds, hits every 0.5 seconds. Cooldown has been reduced to 30 seconds.
• Teaching of the Five Rings now grants 0.6% per Talent Point for each Soul Point spent in Paragon.

Riftblade
• Rift Strike now gains a 200% Attack Power contribution instead of a Weapon Damage Modification.
• Static Shock now deals damage based on Attack Power.
• Riftblade – Storm Blade now deals damage based on Attack Power.
• Rift Fury now affects all attacks just like Teaching of the Five Rings and Weapon Specialization.
• Rift Fury now grants 0.6% per Talent Point for each Soul Point spent in Riftblade.

Void Knight
• Rift Shield: Can no longer be cast on a target currently under the effects of Rite of the Ancestors or Spiritual Conflagration.


Please keep feedback productive, we will be moderating this thread and will remove posts that we deem unproductive or that distract from the topic.

Thank you all for your continued passion and consideration.

Warriors are getting a currently unknown amount of ap modifier on their finishers but likely in the range of 200-400%(300%-500% total AP contribution). In addition, a large number of their skills are getting either a +100% or +200% AP modifier (it is unclear from Atrius's statements whether the 200% is a total or a bonus to AP contribution). In addition, warriors are also getting a roughly +198% global damage modifier (~3x) in the proposed changes. With many most of their skills will have an effective AP contribution of between 300% to 1500%, non crit. With crit factored in it is in the range of 444% - 2220%. In addition, they are using a finisher on average of roughly every 3rd attack. For a quick and dirty weighted average of roughly 1036% AP contribution(upwards of ~1300 assuming 51pt cham, 3/5 WM, and FB interleaved). So basically a 1-1 correspondence between AP and DPS.

This is a reply to address a few different worries.

First let me address Rising Waterfall specs. Once again I will state that we do not intend to ruin this spec, the intention is to have multiple builds that can match the glory and power that this build was achieving.

The problem in doing that however is that this build was doing in some cases, 500-600 DPS more than other specs out there. When we started looking for ways to boost other specs up to reduce this incredibly large gap we discovered that we would either need to focus in areas that this spec did not touch, which meant very high end Paragon and Champion, or it meant we had to reduce the power of this spec to be closer to the other builds and then build all of them up together. So we identified unique aspects of this spec that were bloating it's numbers and we reduced the effectiveness of those features in a way that did not impact other specs that were already underperforming. By bringing it down to the levels of other specs, it allowed us to then bring all of them up to where it was before. The end result being that it is still doing the same damage it was before, but now other specs are also coming in at that same level, leaving players with more options.

Now as I mentioned before, these first run of numbers are rough, so you may notice other builds now doing better in some circumstances or worse. As soon as we get these up on PTS, please play with them, test your numbers and see what's what. if RW is just not comparable to where it used to be, then please report that and we will address it.

Second, let's talk about items. We intend Warriors to be getting 2 handers, and 1 handed weapons based on their preference. So do not feel bad about rolling on a 1 hand sword in a raid or a dungeon, you should be rolling on them, it was only our balance issues that were making Dual Wield not viable and so you were not trying to get these items. Now daggers on the other hand, you should not be rolling on. We intentionally did not give you PA specs for them to help make it clear that Daggers are intended for Rogues to play with. if you find yourselves wanting to roll on Daggers, please mention it, we should look into that.

Third, I want to address the continued concerns about Fiery Burst. We did a balance pass on the damage done by just about every Warrior ability and the Bursts were probably the largest changes. The first thing that happened is that they now have appropriate AP scaling, the second thing that changed is that previously they did not gain increased Weapon Damage modification and now they gain Attack Power Modification, and the third thing that changed is that their damage value was reduced based on the fact that they are off the Global Cooldown. Once again these numbers are rough and so you may find that the changes are too much, or maybe not enough. The end result though should now be that you are not pigeonholed into using the Bursts, you should be using them because you want to, not because you have to.

Понятно, что все понерфят, но топ вары на ПТС сейчас столько в столб дают (2 кнопки).

Бред

с полными рейдовыми баффами/дебаффами

Да, под фулл бафами. Но все равно это намного больше чем сейчас, учитывая что выше в таблице фейсрольный спек/ротация.

Опять же это топ вар, с кучей АП и индактором. Понятно, что будут балансить и уменьшать.

Another set of updates based on your feedback.

1) Enhanced Burst was never intended to be multiplicative. In fixing this we found a coupel other issues and had to change the talent to work slightly differently. It now grants 10/20/30% to Searing Strike, Frost Strike, Thunder Strike, and Rift Strike for the next 6 seconds. It is now additive.

2) Fiery Burst has been changed to have a 10 second duration. This should make the damage more reasonable though it will be more difficult to use in a Macro.

3) Rift Storm has been changed to more closely match Cornered Beast and Flurry. It lasts 2.5 seconds and hits every 0.5 seconds. This should make it more desireable.

4) We are aware of issues with Improved Freezing Armor and are looking into it. Unfortunately it appears to be one of the things hit the hardest by the new scaling changes and will likely need a very heavy rework to make it viable again. This may include it being completely changed.

5) We are also aware that SLI is still too necessary and we are looking into it.

You should see changes soon, though the last two are still in reworking and so may delay behind the first three.

1) A new Burst ability has been added. Icy Burst.

2) Improved Freeze Armor has been removed.

3) A new talent has been added where Freeze Armor used to be. It is still undergoing evaluation and I will share about it as soon as it is concrete.

Что-то с Рифтблейдом дикое намутили

CHAMPION
* Punishing Blow: Increased damage.
* Cornered Beast: Increased damage.

PARAGON
* Reaping Harvest: Increased damage.
* Flurry: Increased damage.
* Way of the Wind: Now deals damage based on Attack Power.
* Bend Like the Reed: Damage buff effect reduced to 5/12/25.
* Strike Like Iron: Reduced to 10/20/30%.
* Rising Waterfall: Now triggers Way of the Wind.

RIFTBLADE
* Bursts have been rebalanced.
[Found it!] * Icy Burst: New ability available at 2 points in Riftblade. Finisher ability that deals Water damage on the next attack.
* Fiery Burst: Now available with 6 points in Riftblade, moved up from 2 to make room for Icy Burst.
* Enhanced Burst: For 6 seconds after using a Burst, now applies a 10-30% damage bonus to Elemental attacks that do not consume Attack Points. Fixed a bug where this would not up the damage bonus for more than 1 Soul Point spent in Enhanced Burst.
* Rift Storm: Cooldown reduced to 30 seconds from 2 minutes. Increased damage.
* Improved Freeze Armor: Removed.
* Scald - New ability replacing Improved Freeze Armor. Deals 10-20% of the damage done by Icy Burst as Air damage when used against someone under the effect from Fiery Burst.

Круто, кстати.
Вообще судя по патчноутам вара собираются сильно бустануть

Не бустануть. Переделать работу АП и финишеров, остальное, в основном, следствие.

1) Primal Rage wasn't applying properly, it should now work as described.
2) Avatar of the Rift now generates damage based on Attack Power.
3) Fixed a bug with Rising Waterfall, the end result should be increased damage while not dual wielding.
4) Added a 1.5 second internal cooldown to Icy Burst.
5) new Talent for Riftblade that replaces Improved Freeze Armor should be up and running now. It is called Scald and it deals extra damage when icy Burst is used on a target with your Fiery Burst on them.
6) Destroyer's Bearing now only gives the extra Attack Point when the Finisher that triggered it was cast using 3 Attack Points.
7) Tearing Slash and Feral Sweep have been rebalanced to account for the fact that their Bleed effect ignores Armor now.

Спек БМа бы глянуть что он будет представлять собой в рейдовом вырианте...
а так мне 51 чамп подуху тоже подходит...может и РБ тож станется...без тестов сказать тяжело...да и умирать (и порицания получать и прочее) из-за жеготного тоже мало желания... Сарт обещал строгую дисциплину, а кошки они такие непредсказуемые)
з.ы. и еще бегают порой медленно,а порой быстро

з.ы.ы макросы тоже надо вспомнить...в БМе без них никак

Я тупа накидать талантов не могу для оценки того, что будет получаться но вариация с 40/26 какая то странная...

Я распишу все актуальные билды с макросами/ротациями, как 1.8 выйдет. Не зря же я взял отпуск на след. неделю .

да я как бы ужо прочитал и вспомнил - petcast

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Тема про Топ ДПС билды в 1.8 будет немного позднее.